Ford Lehman Marine Diesel engine stuff
By mark on Feb 21, 2009 | In News, Fixing stuff | 96 feedbacks »
Had a few emails over the last month or 2 from folks that have googled upon us with a similar Ford lehman engine to ours, ours is the Lehman 2715e.
so thought it it might be useful to stick on or 2 bits on here and let google do its stuff for anyone else in the same boat (ho ho!) as us
had a couple of enquiries about starter motors. First off, avoid anyone company that has the word marine in it! Find an Auto Electrical distributor, and ask for a Lucas starter motor for a ford lehman 2715e. the lucas part number is Lucas 77121A 12V. The mariney type chaps wanted anything up to £500 for one, the auto electrical type chaps charged us £100 or so. Other engine bits, like the oil pressure sender are bog standard units, pretty much any 12v oil pressure sender will work. The temperature sender that screws into the cylinder ehad has the following numbers on it: 23B8, BM1, and 41953 in case anyone eneds to go down that particular avenue, and the alternator that is fitted to ours is another standard Lucas part - A376, which also happens to be the same alternator that was fitted to Ford Fiestas up to the Mk3 version. Hopefully that little lot might help someone somewhere
And finally, if anyone needs a manual for the borg warner velvet drive, or the Ford Lehman 2715e engine, or part numbers for the engine, I've stuck some PDF's I found up on here:
Borg Warner Velvet Drive Gearbox Manual
Ford Lehman 2710 2715 manual & parts lists
Ford Lehman 2710 2715 owners manual
might be worth bookmarking this blog post, I'll probably added a few more bits of useful stuff and as and when I stumble upon it. As much for my addled memory as anything else!
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just another wee note, for major engine components check out Ford Cargo 6D engines, and New Holland Combine harvesters
update, October 2009:
just added a marinisation pdf, how to marinise an engine, particularly ford diesel:
Marinising the Ford Lehman 2700 - 2715 series of Diesel engines
and just found the parts list:
Ford Lehman 2700 complete parts list & manual
will be giving her an overhaul and service shortly so will list the part numbers or equivalent part number and supplier for all the necessary bit n pieces, oil filter, fuel filter, injectors, sensors and so
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Update October 2010...
Another wee addition to the Ford Lehman manual collection courtesy of Benjamin, I'd hope there'll be plenty of good karma heading his way from all the folks out there that have been looking for this.
This is the Ford Lehman 2700 Series Service Manual. 358 pages, its the full workshop service manual for the 2701E, 2703E. 2704E, 2701C, 2703C, 2704E, 2711E, 2712E, 2713E, 2714E, 2715E, 2704ET Turbo and 2704 ET Turbo Plus Engines.
its a fairly big file to download (35Mb) click the link to download it
Ford Lehman 2700 Series Service Manual
and just remembered.....
another couple of Ford Lehamn Manuals I'd forgotten to share!
Ford Lehman 2700 Series Service Manual
the first is a parts list for the Ford Lehman base engine:
Ford Lehman 2700 Series Parts list
the second is the Marinised Parts list:
Ford Lehman 2700 Series marinised Parts list
and not only that...
I recently found an installation manual for Borg Warner Velvetdrive and and Borg Warner Service manual too!
Borg Warner Velvet Drive Installation Manual
Borg Warner Velvet Drive Service Manual
Going to be starting a Full service of the engine shortly, so have a few common alternative part numbers that might be useful, oil filters, fuel filters and the like
/** Christmas 2010 **/
its fecking freezing, everything is buried in snow so I'm doing bugger all except trying to drink my own body weight in advocaat (well it is christmas after all!)
I just had a request for a ford lehman 2728 manual, found one so thought it worth sharing:
Ford Lehman 2720 2722, 2723, 2725, 2726 2728 manual for turbo and none turbo models
96 comments
Ford Lehman Diesel
6 cylinder
380 cubic inch
120 horse power
Exhaust Manifold.
Please reply, I would like to locate a used manifold.
thanks
Greg
I believe the block/head is the same as was used in the ford cargo 6D trucks here in the uk and also in New Holland combine harvesters as well
you might find you got water in the gearbox as well if its been that far under water - we're borgwarner boxed and our little flooding incident a few weeks ago filled the gearbox as well
there's a link to a marinisation article up the top for the ford lehman as well:
Marinising the Ford Lehman 2700 - 2715 series of Diesel engines
I had heard 5000 hours between major rebuilds, suppose it'show the thing has been used and/or abused in its life thats the key.
if its any help, ours is an early 70's motor, no obvious scars to suggest its ever been in bits (all the bolt heads etc are still flat and true), so I reckon ours has had nothing more than the normal servicing when needed. Pansy used to have a Kelvin K3, and whilst it would be lovely to still have it, the fact that ford parts are cheap as chips, and they are pretty reliable workhorses, makes it worthwhile.
for what its worth I'm sure the cold start button has ever done much on ours either. Its not really a cold start do much as an excess fuel device that sticks extra fuel in to up the compression and help it start. on ours it moves but has little effect on cold starting. Have just discovered there's a heater system that can be fitted to the inlet manifold which makes life much easier. Will dig out the details, its just a few quids worth/bucks worth of bits
Ben
Im in CT USA engine 5,000 with transmission
Fairwinds; Roger
I've got the full Ford 2700 Range Diesel Engine Workshop Manual. It's a 35MB PDF, so maybe I could send it to you through yousendit.com, and people can then download it from this site. I paid for it, so I don't see why others should have to!
cheers
mark
Thank Matt
Thanks for the brilliant work, time spent etc.
Bryan
Kindly Thomas Jansson Gothenburg, Sweden
does anyone have a contact for a reputable rebuilder in the UK? We have a 2712e in our narrow boat that cr*pped itself & I have to decide whether to rebuild or replace with a different engine. I did a Google search & found a lot of listings pointing to someone in Portsmouth offering rebuilt service exchange engines but they all link to a boatsandoutboards.co.uk website, which seems to be inaccessible. Although a new replacement engine won't be a lot more expensive, and we can happily downsize (as an 80HP engine in a narrow boat is somewhat overkill), there are a lot of other things that will need to be changed with a new engine.
We're currently in NZ until May so doing the job myself is not really an option as we have a strong preference for getting it sorted before we return. I'd like to make a decision in the next few weeks so any advice/suggestions gratefully received.
Cheers,
Allan
one of the biggest ford spares suppliers and rebuilders but not cheap
Made good use of the manuals.
Thanks for your time, you have certainly saved me heaps.
Thanks again,
Allan
thank you
does anyone have any opinion on
the best type of anitfreeze for the
ford lehman ?
thanks in advance
Brian Burley
Expansion tank assembly part no. D876
Water pump (fresh water) no. 5004985
Water cap no. 2C302
or
Expansion tank part no. 1A232
Filler Neck 2C300
Water pump (fresh water) no 5004985
Water Cap no. 2C302
For the tank and filler neck a used one would be fine. Anybody have one on a junk engine they would be willing to sell? What would be the best source for the other stuff in the USA? NAPA?
Thanks for the effort on this site. Great resource.
Daryl
Please Mr. Moderator, Let the responses flow. ;-) I'm feeling some time pressure.....
Has anyone tried to replace the aft crankshaft seal without loosening the main bearing caps for a little working room? When I was a kid I did it on a Buick straight eight and it worked ok. I think I would have room to do it that way by just lifting the aft end of the engine if I don't need to get at the main bearing caps. If I need to get at the bearing caps I will need to lift the whole engine and get it on it's side. Much bigger job but better that than get all done and have it still leaking oil....
Good Site, It is very help full.
they usually can reference any part
On the earlier subject of the cold start button on the injector pump not going in or staying in. If the stop control is not fully released before pressing the button, it wont allow the rack to move into the excess fuel position. In cold weather its always a good idea to press the button when the engine is stopped warm. It makes ahuge difference to the cold starting, especially on older engines.
Your info' is brilliant, I have been trying to find some of this for months; I have a Ford Dorset 2713E 'D' 6ltr 6 cylinder marinised to Mermaid Mariner spec on a Borg Warner 2'10-1 G/Box' which I have been looking to connect an oil pressure guage; Thanks very much for your Site, Regards Tony
Great site
I have cylinder head, wet exhaust manifold and some other stuff for Lehman 120 HP. Parts are in Croatia.
I need a 2 grouve water pump pulley for a ford lehman 120 hp. as I am having problems with the alt. belt slipping with the single 3/8 "A" belt. Ant ideas where I can find such a thing????
We have just purchased a 1976 launch in New Zealand with what is described as a Ford 2704E at 180HP, i suspect it may be a 2704ET the serial number is 72818, any assistance or advice in confirming identity greatly appreciated
Thanks, Warwick...
Many thanks, Jean
I well be pleased if anyone would help my. my 2701E engine have a big hull in the side I´m not sure whats its call in english but the rod thats hold the cylinder is broken. so my question is have had the 2701e similar to other ford engines, I can't find any 2701e here in Denmark so maybe a other engine can fit to the ration-gear, water-cooler and so on
a lot of 2700 engines started live as standard Ford industrial engines, check out ford cargo 4D and 6D truck engines for some parts
best regards anders
2701 is 3964cc (242 cu in) and the 2711 and 2712 are 4150cc (254 cu in)
so the 2701 is a smaller engine, bore is 105mm stroke 115mm
2711 and 2712 bore is 107mm stroke 115mm
maybe the 2701 just as a bigger cylinder liner?? a lot of the other parts look to be the same though, with same part numbers
John Olson
Please help. Thank you
I had the Injector pump reconditioned before I installed the engine.
The Engine is blowing white smoke can anybody help with what can be the cause.
I am pretty sure no water is getting into the cylinders.
Phil.
I had the Injector pump reconditioned before I installed the engine.
The Engine is blowing white smoke can anybody help with what can be the cause.
I am pretty sure no water is getting into the cylinders.
Phil.
I've got a 2714E in my boat but the serial number tag is missing. Any idea about how I can get this engine identified from Ford Lehman? By the way this website is excellent!!
I'm got a Matbro Bray 5000, it has a Ford 2723E engine, I am looking for a workshop manual for it. Can you help?
Thank you
Terry
I have just had the 4-cylinder 2700 series diesel (2700E-6015-B on block, 2700E-6450-B on tappet cover) in my boat rebuilt and would like some advice about the oil I should use after running in. Prior to me purchasing the boat and up until the rebuild it was using BP Vanellus C3 Mono 30. Someone has recommended Morris Golden Film SAE30. Any recommendations would be much appreciated.
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